where did you get your idea that a nonbelief in god denies the knowledge of evil? if there is no god, there is no devil, but we can see evil for that is a product of mankind.

similarly, morality is not a function of religion but a function of how humans deal with one another and thus morality is the antipartner of evil.

mr. roberts, you might have to rethink your arguments before you pontificate further.

Mr. Glazier,

I find myself curious that you peg religious people as not thinking for themselves. Yes, our beliefs are prepackaged in the sense that the Bible is sold with shrink wrap around it, but Christianity is anything but prepackaged. You wrongly assume that Christians, with their non-functioning brains, jump on the band wagon of religion and walk blindly to what is being fed to them at church. Mr. Glazier, only a fool never questions what he believes. As a declared Atheist (as opposed to Agnostic), you don’t claim to have ever considered the possibility of there being a Creator or that Jesus was in fact the Son of God. It seems that it is you are the one who is a sheep. Have you never questioned what you believe? If you’re so convinced there is no God, why not put your beliefs to the test?

With regard to Lenin “being right,” God has called Christians to be submissive into suffering (1 Peter 3); to turn the other cheek. As a group, we expect to be persecuted for the things we believe, just as Christ was.

I was interested how you can deduce that morality was not derived from religion. Morality is defined as “conformity to the rules of right conduct; moral or virtuous conduct” according to Webster. Another word for “rules” is law, and the first documented law was the Ten Commandments. Are not most laws today somehow, some way, based on them?

Mr. Glazier, it seems that you might have to rethink your arguments before you pontificate further.

People,

This atheist-believers ranting is missing the point. A person should be judged by his actions, not his beliefs.

It is true that atrocities have been committed in the name of religion. It is also true that attrocities have been committed for non-religious reasons.

I remember a “discussion” with a holier-than-thou sister-in-law in which her hysterical response to my points was, “It’s in the Bible!” Radicals come in all shapes, sizes and creeds.

To me, the only wrong in the world is to restrict a persons freedom to do anything they want to do AS LONG AS IT DOESN’T HURT ANYONE ELSE.

Whose morality is the standard? Yours, mine, the Pope’s, some ayatollah’s? I like to play bridge. Some hard-shell Baptists think that any card game is sinful.

What the world needs is more tolerance – plain and simple.

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